2012 Yamaha Tenere

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by RossKean, Jul 21, 2020.

  1. RossKean

    RossKean Active Member

    I think it is most likely NA but it is something I would check. Also need to see if the first valve check has been done and what else the original owner may have done (i.e. ECU "flash"). I'm not much of a sticker guy so (if I bought it) the first couple of hours would be spent removing them - hair dryer, fingernail and Goo Gone.

    Not exactly what I want in a bike but there aren't an awful lot of used adventure bikes for sale around here. Most of the ones out there are either "rode hard and put away wet" or are being listed for a ridiculous amount of money - 3/4 the price of new for a five year old bike! Normally a "fly 'n ride" would be a consideration but not going to happen in the days of COVID if it is outside Atlantic Canada. I'll keep looking and try the lowball offer in a couple of weeks if it is still there.
  2. RossKean

    RossKean Active Member

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  3. Backdraft

    Backdraft Active Member

    Holy crap.
    A new GS basic model 1250 lists for $21000. That's with absolutely no options.

    That bike at most should go for$15000max. It's 7 years old.

    Wanna buy my 80000kms 2014 GS for $20000 I'll sell it... Lol
    I agree that farkles are spendy... But wow...
    If I'm not mistaken... That's the old oil head. Not the newer LC
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  4. Bob

    Bob Active Member

    I always enjoy comparing the bike I really want to more expensive ones I really don't. :D
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  5. RossKean

    RossKean Active Member

    Motoplex isn't known for giving bikes away! That is why I was asking what sort of offer to make if I was going to consider it. (Also my comment on people asking WAY too much for used bikes of any sort around here). Given the age, I would expect $14 k would be pretty good but I doubt they would bite. Does it originally come with luggage or is that an expensive extra?

    Not sure about BMW anyway. The bike has a lot of appeal but I am concerned about maintenance costs - I bet I didn't spend more than $400 in maintaining my 07 FJR over 10 years and 295,000 km. (other than fluids, plugs, brake pads, tires and filters) Did all the work myself.
  6. skibum69

    skibum69 Well-Known Member

    There is definitely a cost to maintenance but if you do mostof your own you should be good.

    And certainly you can't ride a bike with someone else stickers on it!
  7. RossKean

    RossKean Active Member

    Found another (newer) Tenere that might be a better deal. 2016, similar mileage, fewer farkles. $10,995 (before any negotiation)

    Might not be the bike I want but it removes some of the urgency on the other Tenere I saw initially.
    Think I'll be giving the BMW a pass - no way Motoplex will come down to a price I could live with.

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  8. skibum69

    skibum69 Well-Known Member

    iI's a pretty colour, classic Yammy graphics.
  9. RossKean

    RossKean Active Member

    Don't know if I prefer it to basic black or not!

    I would want to add the protection of engine guards and a proper skid plate - anything else in terms of protection needed? Brands recommended?
    What other Tenere farkles are typically added?

    Maybe a top box as well. Or get a Pelican knock-off hard shell plastic case.

    The auxiliary "fog lights" would likely need to be replaced with decent LEDs - don't know what these ones are but guessing incandescent (have some questions emailed to the seller).
    Maybe I'll take the Clearwater Ericas off my FJR. Need to find out if the first valve clearance check has been done and if the ECU has been "flashed" - apparently a popular improvement.

    Wouldn't be hard to add $2000 or more in "stuff".
    Just thinking out loud. Haven't even decided if I am going to take a day trip down to Halifax to have a look. (Stop in Moncton on the way to peek at that BMW as well)
  10. Bob

    Bob Active Member

    Hope you can get a test ride to see how it fits. Any plans to take an off road training course? If you do 60/40 tires and crash bars will help.

    WRT lighting, the biggest safety advantage is having that "triangle of light" visible to oncoming traffic so your single headlight is not mistaken for a far away vehicle.
    If you do a lot of night driving you spend thousands adding to and/or modifying your lights.
    If not you can get the same safety effect from a couple of cheap LEDs mounted on your crash guards and a couple more added to the rear of your panniers. Four velcro mounted bicycle safety lights will keep you visible front and rear in dark/foggy/dusty/rainy sketchy conditions. I've even used a headlamp mounted backwards on my helmet set on flash a few times.
    WRT farkles I'd look for wide riders foot pegs which pivot so your ankles can move easier. Next would be proper height windshield. You might appreciate heated grips and custom heated seats at some point.
    You may want to add a fuse block if you start adding electrical accessories.
    Not suggesting you should go down the GS road (potential final drive and immobilizer issues right?) but FWIW I've bookmarked thousands of dollars of generic non OEM farkles for my GS intending to add them as I need them. I've actually added very little but PM me if you want the list.
  11. RossKean

    RossKean Active Member

    If I go with either of these bikes, some serious off-road training or at least riding with patient experienced riders is part of the plan.

    My FJR is EXTREMELY well lit. Clearwater Ericas on mirror mounts and Clearwater amber Glendas on the forks. Additional Hyperlight flashing LED brake/signal lights in the rear. Large reflective decals on the backs of the hard bags and on the side fairings/bags. I don't do a lot of night riding but would definitely put some extra LEDs in the front and down low - more to be seen than to see.

    I think both bikes had stock footpegs but both already have aftermarket windscreens and heated grips.

    No interest in a heated seat but I use a heated jacket liner and heated gloves when necessary. The comfort of a Russell seat would be welcome. I always use a "Fuzeblock" for switched and unswitched electrical distribution.

    Main concern was protection stuff for the bike if I decided on the 2016 vs the 2012 (2012 already has everything, I think). Engine guards and skid plate came to mind and I will seek out Tenere owners for recommended brands/sources. Also headlight shields and radiator guard as well.

    The GS Adventure was interesting to be sure but more than I wanted to spend for a bike that is very likely to cost more to keep on the road. It would get a harder look if the price was closer to the other two but for $17,000, I am getting close to a NEW Tenere or Africa Twin. ($18,500 for a 2020 Super Tenere with electronic suspension and warranty but without farkles other than side cases)
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  12. skibum69

    skibum69 Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't worry about pivot pegs unless you already have ankle problems, you already know more light is good, more surface areas might be nice depending on your boots and how stiff the soles are. Skid plate for sure for any offroad. Crash bars I'm not sold on but I do have tank guards on the 640 so some protection probably isn't a bad thing but you have to be sure of the mounting points etc, certainly the 1200 forums will lead you to the good stuff.I like light shields and if there isn't anything protecting the rad that's probably a good idea. Too bad you weren't over here I'd take you out for a little offroad riding.
  13. Backdraft

    Backdraft Active Member

    Keep your clearwaters. They have to be the BEST lights on the market
  14. RossKean

    RossKean Active Member

    I agree! The (used) 2011 FJR came with both Ericas and Glendas already on it. While I would have added auxiliary lights to any bike, the Clearwaters are pretty spendy and beyond what I would likely choose to buy. The Ericas, in particular, are fantastically bright but over $900 USD. Was just thinking that the better lights would go on a dual-sport since that is more likely where they would be needed. I would get a replacement set for the FJR - some pretty good and less expensive LEDs are available. Not a major consideration at this point.

    Maybe next year...
    Ankles, knees and hips are pretty good for an old guy but I need to get decent waterproof boots with a stiffer sole. Hard to find locally, especially in a size 14.5
    Haven't even visited the Tenere forums yet.
  15. murph

    murph Well-Known Member

    While Skibums offer might be made as a goodwill gesture it is a bad idea to ride a large adventure bike while having no offroad experience and more brittle bones with someone on a smaller dirt oriented dual purpose with a balls to the walls attitude.
    Straight up info. You are buying a large heavy touring machine that will comfortably roll all the dirt roads you have passed by for years because you have been riding sport touring. In experienced hands it will go to places that you should not without all the guards, someone with first aid experience and others able to lift it off of your leg.
    I did the switchover on to a KLR. I shudder to think of the damage I would have done to myself on the GSA without learning about my very limited abilities on the Kawi first.
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  16. skibum69

    skibum69 Well-Known Member

    Oh come on Murph, I wouldn't take him anywhere tricky. Ask JLambo about taking him out to Cape Ray for the first time him on his 990. Good dirt roads are the best start to riding offroad. But if you have friends over there Murph is right you don't want to try chasing someone on a smaller bike.

    I want a set of Darla's for my 1100S but it's going to be awhile before I have the dosh,
  17. RossKean

    RossKean Active Member

    I get it, Murph. This is FAR more about having a bike better suited to decent unpaved roads than for off-road adventure. It is also to give me a "back-up" bike in case the other one is down for maintenance or repair (which it is now due to a leaky fork seal that I haven't had time to address). To be honest, I don't really know exactly where I will be riding other than the fact that there are a bunch of decent gravel and forest roads around here. The TransLab beckons as does the Haul Road - all of these CAN be done on a regular street bike such as the FJR but it isn't the best tool for the job; especially with 100% street tires. I do a fair bit of camping on the bike and the dual-sport is better suited to that task as well, even though typical terrain is not especially challenging. Definitely makes a better pack horse than the FJR and less susceptible to cosmetic damage.

    My lack of confidence in the ability to ride rougher roads is a function of inexperience with those conditions and the fact that I didn't start motorcycling until I was almost fifty and understood that there are (often painful) consequences to carelessness. The lack of confidence is a GOOD thing in this case and will likely keep me out of trouble until I gather a little more experience with rougher terrain.

    Perhaps I should look at something smaller to hone some skills before taking on the larger bike. I will give it some thought and see what might be available for cheap. Undecided at this point - time and money. At the very least, I would stay away from any riding terrain that stretches my skills envelope too far unless I was with someone else. I will look for an off-road "skills" course to see if something is available locally. Although I carry a cell phone with a tracking app (Bubbler GPS), it doesn't work out of cell range and a Spot satellite tracker might be a worthwhile investment.

    I acknowledge that I have a lot to learn about this stuff and I appreciate the advice and suggestions.

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  18. Bob

    Bob Active Member

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  19. Backdraft

    Backdraft Active Member

    ^^^^ Nice, great price. $900 CAD plus tax and shipping new... ($674USD plus ..)
  20. Bob

    Bob Active Member

    No shortage of either here. :rolleyes:
    Seriously, it's always nice to ponder that "next bike" vicariously through other's efforts so thanks for letting us 'help'.
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