Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by keith, Mar 9, 2018.
What are you all carrying with you for tubeless repairs?
Cheap electrical Crappy Tire pump... stripped down to just the motor and hose... plugin adapted to the bike's trickle charge connector with these:
A T-handle reamer
A T-handle plugger
The stickiest toughest rope plugs they have on hand... usually the wine coloured ones
A tiny tube of Camel glue from Mtn. Bike tire kit.
Pocket knife to trim the plugs
Valve core remover
Spare valve core
Spare valve cover
NB... don't chuck the cigarette lighter plugin if you chop it off... just connect a spare pigtail to it as per the above link and keep it with you in case your bike battery goes flat and there's another bike or cage around to plug into. If you keep the cigarette plugin connector you can also use it in your auto in the Winter or stop to help a cager with a flat if that seems like a good idea at the time.
Great response. The only comment I would add is to make sure that the pigtail off the battery for running the pump is fused adequately! Some of these little pumps can draw 10 amps or more.
If you bike has a lighter socket on it, it is likely that the fuse (and wiring) will not support one of these pumps.
I did the pump de-cased thing before.....my advice is to make sure you protect it in someway to keep the dust and dirt out or anything else that could damage it and prevent it from working. I would also recommend a second source of air if you travel solo......because it would suck if your only source crapped out.
And from previous experience, I would carry a tube of the cement.....unopened. Opened ones tend to be dried out just when you need it. I would also recommend putting the tube in a case of some sort......I've had tubes that cracked opened and dried up.
For me, I carry a 12v pump and some c02 cartridges as a back up. Co2 cartridges are not great, but may provide just enough air to get you out of the woods. Extra fuses, plugs, cement, multi-tool and of course the tire plug tools.
Good point. The battery tender leads I use are available off most moto store counters for less than ten bucks, hook directly to the battery terminals and are fused. They have rubber protector caps on the end which keeps the pigtail from grounding out on your frame and killing your battery... DAMHIK
+1 on the second source of air for some situations. Couple of other things with tubeless tires, especially if you do longer rides and/or air down on some dirt roads or trails:
1) If shale or granite chips are used to resurface the roads you will likely cut the sidewalls of tires especially if they're aired down. Happened to me twice within 100kms on the TLH due to granite chips.
2) Carry a few tire 'boots' of different sizes (at least 3" to 6" as you can trim them); carry your tire irons and wheel removal tools; carry a clean rag to dip into your gas tank and get enough gas to clean the inside of the tire where the gash is located; carry said tire glue/cement and a Bic lighter to light the glue on fire once you have spread it over the area to be booted (make sure the gas has dried and the fumes have evaporated first); carry a proper roller to roll the boot into the hot glue (which was on fire but which you blew out at just the right time to create a vulcanizing effect); and carry a spare tube to install once you've checked the rest of the tire for foreign objects, dumped out tire beads etc. I don't know how anyone could do this with gloves on, but you should be able to clean your hands after with a bit of gas... or sand if you're somewhere nice and it's warm. I've worn out plugged tires, but I'd only trust tubeless tire with a boot and a tube to get me to a new tire. I've found HD tubes take more time.
3) Carry a tarp or some other waterproof shelter to work under in wet weather, blowing dust, slob snow etc. so you don't ruin your boots and glue.
I've fixed thousands of flats back in my service station days and things usually go well if you don't rush and keep your stuff clean and dry.
Back in my four wheeling days, I wheeled with a guy that slashed his sidewall on a rock. As a group, we used about 6 tubes of cement and soaked a rag. Jammed it in the hole and aired up the tire. Not only did the temp fix work to get him home, but held air over night!
I wouldn’t recommend this method on a two wheeled bike. But who knows, it may work enough to get you out of the woods.
I bought my first Moto Pump in '07, it stopped working after sitting in 2" of water in my rally box for an extended period of time. I just got a new one from him and it's a really nice piece of kit. I also carry a bicycle hand pump in my hydration bladder pocket as backup. I run tubes so I carry 2 spares on long trips and a patch kit.
Nice guy, check it out
The bicycle pump is a nice idea. But have you ever tested it on a motorcycle tire? If not, you should try it.
Have a crank brothers hand pump. Had to use it on a quad tire once in a pinch... It'll getcha out of a jam but aint fun!
And a light source, plug in or independent... usually a headlamp and spare batteries but some riders may prefer more:
I must be the only one in this forum that has never had a flat in the wild. Consequently no experience fixing it.
However I carry a kit similar to Bob's on long trips just in case. And a gold CAA card
Like the previous guy said, it will get you out of a jam. A good pump works well enough when you need it, and it’s still waaay better than being caught without a way to get air in your tire in the middle of nowhere.
Maybe a good hand pump is the key, then. I bought what I thought was a good hand pump at MEC, tried it on a flat tire and after of 15mins of painfully pumping it did nothing measurable. I suspect the pump would break before I had any usable air in the tire. For me, it was a false sense of security. For that reason, I would highly recommend that if you carry a hand pump, to try it on a flat tire in your garage first....to be sure that you are happy with the results.
I can definitely attest that not all hand pumps are the same, there is a very wide range of performance depending on what size & type of tire you’re trying to fill. You need to do your homework to get a high volume pump suitable for mtb tires and bigger.
I just bring my mechanic along, rates are pretty good!!!
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