Bob
Well-Known Member
Don't know if there's much left to say on this topic but it seemed to be crowding @Biker-Andy's Trans-Lab thread so I figured I'd start a separate thread and resume any remaining discussion here...
To recap, this issue came up when Inmate @Backdraft reported he had been told to ditch one of his two, empty, 5 L CSA Approved gas cans on his bike while crossing the St. Lawrence River between Matane and Baie Comeau on the 'Confederation' ferry. I have contacted the ferry service provider for clarification and they have asked me 'which ferry?' Our correspondence continues.
Meanwhile, crossing the St. Lawrence River by ferry is optional for most riders, so having too many or the 'wrong' gas cans should not really be a show stopper. However nothing like a bit of experience based discussion to shed some light on the subject. I don't recall any Inmates here posting concerns about gas cans on any of the Newfoundland ferry crossings to date but that doesn't mean there have not been any. I've never had any issues with two gas cans myself, and from what I've read in the Transport Canada Regulations so far we should be fine with one CSA Approved container up to a maximum of 25 L. However that's not practical for most motorcycles so I'm left wondering if ferry operators have any discretion in applying these regulations.
We're still waiting to hear why anyone would not be allowed to bring an additional, visually inspected by ferry staff to be EMPTY, CSA Approved fuel container aboard the 'Confederation' ferry between Matane and Baie Comeau. Which reminds me to ask if filling any empty gas cans or other types of fuel containers temporarily with water during a crossing would render them safe and transportable by ferry.
While a passenger service ferry is usually the shortest part of any trip, it may also be the acid test for additional fuel transportation and storage. I'm deliberately referencing 'CSA Approved' containers as only they can pass that test however riders may, and do, use other containers on their onward journeys. With a wide variety of containers available we need to remember that because a container is marketed as safe or approved for 'storage' does not necessarily mean it is being marketed as safe or approved for 'transportation'. Any assumptions we make about that are on us but would typically be a non issue if we don't plan transportation by passenger ferry.
The purpose of this thread is to determine if the additional 25 L of fuel which Transport Canada has approved us to carry onto a passenger ferry on our motorcycle is limited to being contained in one CSA Approved gas can, or if that total of 25 L can be shared amongst more than one CSA Approved container. For example three CSA Approved 8 L cans, five CSA Approved 5 L cans, two 10 L cans plus one 5 L can etc. Let us know what you think.
To recap, this issue came up when Inmate @Backdraft reported he had been told to ditch one of his two, empty, 5 L CSA Approved gas cans on his bike while crossing the St. Lawrence River between Matane and Baie Comeau on the 'Confederation' ferry. I have contacted the ferry service provider for clarification and they have asked me 'which ferry?' Our correspondence continues.
Meanwhile, crossing the St. Lawrence River by ferry is optional for most riders, so having too many or the 'wrong' gas cans should not really be a show stopper. However nothing like a bit of experience based discussion to shed some light on the subject. I don't recall any Inmates here posting concerns about gas cans on any of the Newfoundland ferry crossings to date but that doesn't mean there have not been any. I've never had any issues with two gas cans myself, and from what I've read in the Transport Canada Regulations so far we should be fine with one CSA Approved container up to a maximum of 25 L. However that's not practical for most motorcycles so I'm left wondering if ferry operators have any discretion in applying these regulations.
We're still waiting to hear why anyone would not be allowed to bring an additional, visually inspected by ferry staff to be EMPTY, CSA Approved fuel container aboard the 'Confederation' ferry between Matane and Baie Comeau. Which reminds me to ask if filling any empty gas cans or other types of fuel containers temporarily with water during a crossing would render them safe and transportable by ferry.
While a passenger service ferry is usually the shortest part of any trip, it may also be the acid test for additional fuel transportation and storage. I'm deliberately referencing 'CSA Approved' containers as only they can pass that test however riders may, and do, use other containers on their onward journeys. With a wide variety of containers available we need to remember that because a container is marketed as safe or approved for 'storage' does not necessarily mean it is being marketed as safe or approved for 'transportation'. Any assumptions we make about that are on us but would typically be a non issue if we don't plan transportation by passenger ferry.
The purpose of this thread is to determine if the additional 25 L of fuel which Transport Canada has approved us to carry onto a passenger ferry on our motorcycle is limited to being contained in one CSA Approved gas can, or if that total of 25 L can be shared amongst more than one CSA Approved container. For example three CSA Approved 8 L cans, five CSA Approved 5 L cans, two 10 L cans plus one 5 L can etc. Let us know what you think.
