Shopping KTM

Discussion in 'General Discussion' started by Wayne, Jul 15, 2018.

  1. HunterSon

    HunterSon Active Member

    I bought a Kawasaki Versys from them in 2007 and had it shipped here. Very helpful and it was much cheaper even with the shipping.
     
  2. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    So, just curious how much did shipping cost? My fear is that my local dealer support would be put on that back burner if I do this.

    And on top of this, I was offered a sweet deal on a 2018 model in Ontario. Sworn to secrecy on the price.
     
  3. TonisToo

    TonisToo Active Member

    I paid $600 with Clarenville Movers from Ontario if that's any help. Was talking to Keith and there's plenty of ways to ship bikes across country. $600 NL-ON is a good estimate apparently from my recent discussion and people from away interested in my old R80. I should also add mine was uncrated, covered in moving blankets and strapped in (no issues). If it was a new bike I would probably stick with the original crate for a few extra $$$
     
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  4. Trash

    Trash Active Member

    I wouldn’t think twice about purchasing a vehicle with warranty coverage from far away.
    In fact, I have done it several times. Its not your fault that the local dealers don’t have what you are looking for.
    Plus, you will undoubtedly get the best deal right now on a leftover 2018 Model.
    The key in my experience is to immediately start bringing your new purchase to your dealer of choice for service while under warranty, with the explanation that you would have purchased it from them if they had one in inventory, but you plan on having them service your bike. They will gladly perform any needed warranty work. You just have to “throw them a bone” of having them perform the routine maintenance as well. I have never owned a KTM, but my substantial experience with BMW has been that they are very lenient on their warranty coverage if the dealer is performing all the required maintenance on schedule.
     
  5. skibum69

    skibum69 Active Member

    I just shipped my bike in a crate from St. John’s to Whitehorse for $765 amd it was $845 to ship it back with Day & Ross. Don’t ask why it shipped both ways.
     
  6. HunterSon

    HunterSon Active Member

    I had mine shipped with Armour courier, one from Quebec and one from PEI. Both times it cost me $400.
     
  7. THop

    THop Member

    I wouldnt worry about warrenty being put to the back burner. Unless something has drastically changed in the last few weeks then FnF is useless for anything service wise unless you want to wait 6 months
     
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  8. skibum69

    skibum69 Active Member

    I never worried about it when I got my 640, watching one oil change when Coastal had KTM was the last time Ie er dealt with them
     
  9. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    Sadly, this is common in St. John's. And yes I have stories about some other well known dealers
     
  10. skibum69

    skibum69 Active Member

    Pretty much every dealer in the province and in town definitely every one except the Toy Box and I’m not happy with them at the moment for not having a part for my lawnmower that I was led to believe they did have. One little fail by one little guy, definitely not the fault of the owner. Two of my bikes are in there at the moment so I’m not bitching too hard.
     
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  11. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    Like I said, I have stories including these guys too. But I'm not about to bash anyone on the forum.
     
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  12. skibum69

    skibum69 Active Member

    I’m not above a little bashing when it’s deserved.
     
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  13. Bob

    Bob Active Member

    Ah those pesky dealers....

    Re shopping KTM... I was a bit disappointed KTM didn't sponsor Boorman and McGregor on their RTR media extravaganza that gave ADV riding such a boost. I guess KTM realized they'd come out on the loosing side of the performance/dependability calculus which must have informed their decision, right?

    Full disclosure: I gave up 'brand loyalty' when BSA went under and have been an equal opportunity rider since then.
    I briefly looked for a KTM 950 (in black) when they first came out, but local KTM dealers said it cost too much to train their mechanics to service twins. Their loss.

    Re performance/dependability... some riders need more than one bike because they enjoy different types of riding (off road, cruising, touring etc.). Some riding calls for more performance than dependability and vice versa. All similar bikes should perform similarly for the average non professional rider. Any professional riders on this site please feel free to chime in.
    From my own disastrous attempts, and from my observation of other's, most untrained non professional riders simply don't have the skills to out perform their machines, no matter the make or model. So, for me bike shopping is not just about having a machine(s) with that balance of performance and dependability I think I'll need for the type of riding I think I'll be doing.... it also has to be an emotionally rewarding experience because I'm spending all that fun money to get happy and I frigging well want to stay happy. Personally I'll stick with whatever dealer can keep me smiling as I spend my fun money through the warranty period and beyond....

    Re dealers... very few realize that you'll only part with your fun money as long as you're happy doing so. If they disappoint in some way we can just move along as most product is competitively priced at comparative performance/dependability levels.
    Unfortunately most dealers don't understand that this discretionary transaction implies that they share some responsibility for your emotional health and well being. Perhaps a timely review of this simple process is in order http://www.cpe.vt.edu/gttc/presentations/8eStagesofChange.pdf
    Most dealers I know would benefit from a brief review of their competence vis a vis mastering their job as well... i.e., your happiness: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_stages_of_competence
    Many dealers seem to get that such and such a brand will 'sell itself' and they can carry on providing shoddy service while we happily hand over our hard earned but discretionary income.
    Not the case! Liberated and informed consumers such as your good selves must rise up. Challenge your dealer, ask him or her how are they going to make you happy, and how are they going to keep you happy. Whether this is a one of purchase from a Mainland dealer (where happiness = excellent price) you may never see again, or a purchase from a local dealer (where happiness = good price + excellent service), you deserve to be happy throughout the entire process...http://www.cpe.vt.edu/gttc/presentations/8eStagesofChange.pdf

    So back to KTM shopping... or any other colour shopping for that matter... if you're not having fun spending your hard earned fun money, stop and take a closer look at the whole thing. Happy shopping!
     
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  14. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    2019 KTM 1290r info has been non existent online or from the dealers.....no release dates, no pricing, no ETA, nothing. But Intermot 2018 starts tomorrow, in which new bikes are usually released. I just saw this video posted today, and if you look closely, you can see the 1290r in the background.

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  15. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    The rest of the KTM lineup info for 2019 (including the 1290r) will be released at EICMA, November 6th, 2018.
     
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  16. skibum69

    skibum69 Active Member

  17. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    I'm not positive, but I think when a dealer sells a new bike, it has to be in a safe and ready to ride condition. So shipping in the original crate would mean 'some assembly required' for the buyer. So they will wrap, strap and ship or build a larger crate to ship a fully assembled bike, which of course would probably be much more expensive. Maybe its a legal thing, or maybe just dealership preference.
     
  18. keith

    keith Active Member

    Why not just do a fly and ride in the spring?
     
  19. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    Well, good deals are usually harder to find in the Spring. And a fly n ride would be much more expensive than shipping.
     
  20. TonisToo

    TonisToo Active Member

    Just trying to give you an idea of the low end of shipping an uncrated bike half way across Canada. As you know Geoff bought his Triumph out of Nova Scotia. If I remember, it came in the original crate and he had to offer a local address for receiving it that had a loading dock or fork lift so he used the MUN library where he used to work. I imagine Geoff would be happy to provide more details. Good luck with the new machine, I think KTM is making some of the best looking bikes across the board.
     
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