I got nailed

Discussion in 'Technical & Maintenance' started by Wayne, Jul 9, 2020.

  1. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    Stay tuned for details and what I’ve learned!

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  2. murph

    murph Well-Known Member

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  3. skibum69

    skibum69 Well-Known Member

    I can't remember if your tires are tubeless or not?
  4. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    Tubeless, but...
  5. RossKean

    RossKean Well-Known Member

    But what?
    Looks like a perfect candidate for a sticky string plug.
  6. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    First off, I think the TPMS can be a life saver. I got the low pressure warning for my rear tire this morning on New World Island. It was reading 35psi, so as I continued I kept an eye to make sure the psi increased (hot tires/hot air and psi increases). And the pressure did increase, so I knew it was likely a slow leak.

    I stopped for food in Gander, and the psi dropped 5 psi. I added air and had a look for anything obvious. Found a nail, or maybe part of a staple.

    While I had a plug kit and compressor ready to use, I decided to leave alone and continue to head home. My thoughts were that it seemed like a slow leak, and with my TPMS I could constantly keep and eye on the pressure. If not for the TPMS, I wouldn’t trust riding the tire. So with 40psi I hit the road for home. And with the hot air, psi hit 45psi and remained fairly stable.

    I plugged the tire in my garage, and now for the things I learned.
    1) In my onboard kit, I only had fat plugs. These never worked, so I used a skinny plug. So always carry different types of plugs because ya never know what will be needed.

    2) In my kit, my reamer was fine. But the plug tool was no good/cheap and just wouldn’t work. I used one from my truck...better quality and worked.

    3) You can never have too much cement. A good idea to pack multiple tubes. Easy to run out if having to make multiple attempts to insert the plug. And/or these tubes of cement can leak out/dry out. Or accidentally step on an opened tube!

    4) As in my case, my rims are tubeless via rim band and seal. So critical that the reamer or plug insert tool doesn’t penetrate too far and damage the band. As in the pics below, I added a spacer to limit how far these tools can penetrate!

    5) And be sure to have a multi tool to be able to pull out the nail/screw/etc. As well as a razor blade or cutters to snip off the excess plug.

    I think, if I had to of attempted to plug this tire road side, I likely would of had issues with my kit. So I’m glad I got to test it out at home, and revise my kit accordingly!

    Also, if your bike doesn’t have TPMS, then get it! I have a completely wireless system on my Varadero that works great and literally installs in minutes.

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  7. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    Here’s the system I use on my Varadero
    Screw on the valve caps, and clamp the monitor on the handle bars. Monitor comes with a usb cord for charging. But one charge lasts a long time.
  8. Backdraft

    Backdraft Active Member

    PITA... Having to deal with flats.. had many over the years.

    One thing you mentioned was fat and skinny plugs. Didn't know that they existed!

    Trip to NAPA tomorrow

  9. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    I’m not sure if there’s a more technical name. But I have plugs that are fat and ones that are skinny. Basically the fat one was of no use, where as the more skinny one work better. You gotta know your hole!
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  10. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    The culprit.

  11. skibum69

    skibum69 Well-Known Member

    I’ll put up my little story in a bit
  12. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    I never tried these before. But maybe a good idea to add this to the tool kit along with the tire plugs. Good to have options.
  13. RossKean

    RossKean Well-Known Member

    I looked at those and didn't really see the point. Temporary repair at best. Sticky string works for me in just a couple of minutes and typically lasts for the life of the tire. Reviews for the Victor kit wasn't great. I do need to remember to carry a multi tool to pull the offending object from the tire.
  14. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    Oh, I agree, temporary at best. But my point is maybe a good option to take incase you have trouble with a plug, or ruin a plug, or break a tool, etc.

    Actually if you have TPMS, and you have a slow leak then maybe best to leave as is until you are home. And just monitor the air pressure for the remainder of the ride.
  15. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    My truck tires are 33x12.5x15 and 20 years old! One with a plug and has never leaked since.

    My quad is 18 years old, and with a plugged tire and never leaked since.
  16. RossKean

    RossKean Well-Known Member

    I don't have TPMS but think I might get one. Stem sensors rather than internal most likely. I have probably plugged a half dozen motorcycle tires with sticky strings and have never had one fail - ran tires until the end of natural life although I am pretty careful for the first couple hundred kilometers.
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  17. Backdraft

    Backdraft Active Member

    [QUOTE="Wayne, post: 22332, member: 34"My truck tires are 20 years old!


    Yet you're concerned about tire dates... Lol... Buy some new rubber for that beauty truck!!!!
  18. Wayne

    Wayne Well-Known Member

    Lol, I’m not too concerned about my truck rubber. It doesn’t get much use, and never sees the highway.
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  19. Backdraft

    Backdraft Active Member

    This is the one I bought

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  20. skibum69

    skibum69 Well-Known Member

    I just bought that exact one Bob from Motopumps, nice looking piece of kit. What I didn't know when I ordered it was that the 1100 comes with it's own complete tire repair kit. The interesting thing to me is that now I have 2 sizes of plugs to play with. All of it lives under the seat.


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